McNabb Fan Robs Bank With #5 Jersey

Donovan McNabb Jersey Bank Robbery

Best. Story. Ever.

A man wearing a Donovan McNabb Eagles jersey held up a bank in Northeast Philadelphia Tuesday and fled with an undisclosed amount of cash, authorities said.

Good thing for the pictures, or I would have assume #5 came back for his bonus money.

The bandit - who is considered armed and dangerous - is described as a white male, about 45-years-old and stands about 5-foot-8. He has closely cropped dark salt-and-pepper hair and is clean shaved.

This man deserves our help. Have we not all experienced a certain helplessness since Donovan was traded? Feel for this hardened criminal and rally to his aid. The Sherriff of Nottingham (i.e. Joe Banner) is after the righteous bandit. Shelter him in the woods. Provide him with a KolbHead disguise. Anything!

Updates (hopefully) to follow.

What's the Deal with Michael Vick?

Michael Vick Donovan McNabb NFL Philadelphia Eagles Rumors Trades

We’ve been through the whole gamut of emotions with Michael Vick: surprise when he was signed, excitement about the wildcat, boredom when he didn’t seem to have much impact, expectation that he was going to be traded, and now maybe even resignation that he might be Kevin Kolb’s back-up.

So what gives? Where are we with 7? And why have we been through such a bizarre offseason?

I think it all goes back to Vick’s goal when he signed with the Eagles. Tony Dungy and others said he could have gone in and competed for the starting job somewhere like Oakland, but the calculation was that spending a year as a back-up for an established coach and stable organization would help rehabilitate Michael’s image. Ultimately, the goal was to boost Vick’s value long term, so he could eventually pay off his creditors and return to profitability.

The tradeoff for this plan of seeking out a solid organization was that the Eagles finagled a second year into Vick’s contract. Now I don’t think he ever really thought this was a big problem. Vick assumed that after a year of rehabilitiation — even if he wasn’t able show much as a player — teams would be clamoring to get him. His calculation was that teams were worried about the bad publicity and not about his actual playing ability.

You can see this attitude at the beginning of the offseason, when Vick was talking about being a starter next year on Feb. 1:

It would be fairly hard [to return to the Eagles as a back-up]. If I had to [come back to the Eagles], I would, just because I’m thankful.”

In other words, Vick really didn’t want to come back to the Eagles. He was ready to move on. Had he really learned anything with Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb? Doubt it. But the bankruptcy plan said it was time for a starting job for the self-stated “Top 10” quarterback.

On March 9th, the Eagles picked up Vick’s $1.5 million roster bonus, and I think Michael was genuinely surprised:

“I think the entire organization knows that I want to be a starter. I’ve reiterated that to Marty [Mornhinweg] at the end of the season and coach [Andy] Reid. They know that. They know I’m a competitor. They know I want to play. They know I want to win.”

Before the Eagles picked up Vick’s bonus, I think Vick already had one leg out the door. He had discussed teams he would like to go to, like the Carolina Panthers, and rode the “I want to be a starter” thing hard.

The problem is Vick really wasn’t helping his own cause. Any team who was looking at Vick as a veteran back-up (and his contract really isn’t expensive for one) must have been scared away by Vick’s insistence for a starting job. And the Eagles must have had a tough time getting the price they wanted for Vick as a starter (which was probably too high in the first place), because Vick was showing how much he wanted to get out of Philly.

By March 12th Vick still doesn’t really get it:

“If I’m in the same situation, I’ll just have to suck it up and go out and play and listen to what Andy [Reid] wants me to do and understand I’m there to play a certain role to try to help the Eagles win a Super Bowl. I can’t be a disgruntled employee, because that’s not who I am.”

Sure, the words are basically right. But listen to the tone. He’s willing to “suck it up” and go do his job. He doesn’t want to have to be “a disgruntled employee.” This doesn’t sound like someone who really wants to stick around.

I think these quotations also just speak to just how bad Vick is at understanding that his situation would be best served by being quiet. It’s like he took a crash course in jail on the T.O. school of negotiation.

A week and a half later Tony Dungy went on Dan Patrick’s show and discussed Vick:

Patrick: It’s been kind of quiet on the Michael Vick front. I thought he’d be with another team by now. What about you?
Dungy: You know, at first I felt the same way — that they [the Eagles] had so much money invested in roster bonuses and that type of thing. But I can kind of see [coach] Andy Reid’s point. You never can have too many quarterbacks and so they have got to make it worthwhile. If they’re going to let anybody go, they have to get what they feel is fair market value. So we’ll see what happens. I talked to Mike a few days ago and he’s very patient. If he ends up being in Philadelphia, he’s going to be fine with that and work as hard as he can.

My interpretation of this is that since Vick’s previous trade demands (which is essentially what those quotes come off as), both the organization and Tony Dungy talked with him and set him sraight. In other words, I don’t read Dungy’s quote here as “Michael is patient and willing to stay.” I read it as “I told Michael he needs to be patient and willing to stay.”

(Also, check out the answer to DP’s next question for Dungy’s take on Andy-McNabb.)

By March 25, Domo had new knowledge about Vick’s situation:

But a source in the organization said [keeping all three quarterbacks] isn’t likely. There is almost no chance Vick will return, the source said.

This is a very interesting report. It’s clearly not a purposeful leak, because (a) it would be in a headline, and (b) it actually goes against the Eagles’ interests by admitting Vick will/has to go.

The Eagles, of course, couldn’t let that slide. They leaked a story to their favorite cub reporter, Jeff McLane:

But a source said the Eagles aren’t likely to cut Vick and in fact, they aren’t shopping the 29-year-old anymore.

You could argue that this was early proof that McNabb was a goner and that Vick was needed to back-up Kevin Kolb. But I think the two things are mostly unrelated. Vick has not once been counted on by the Eagles to be a legit back-up quarterback. Throughout the season Kolb was the primary back-up, and Vick was the wildcat toy. When McNabb went down the Eagles were sure to get Jeff Garcia just in case. Michael Vick was an investment, not a real back-up; and I doubt Andy’s changed his mind on that this offseason.

The coach did call Vick the night of the McNabb trade though and give him some good spin:

“I look at the situation as not being part of God’s plan right now. I think when the opportunity knocks for me to go out and [start] again, then it’ll happen, and I’ll be ready for it. The only thing I can do is prepare myself and make sure I’m ready to play… I know I still have longevity in this league. I have to look at it as a positive. I am preserving my body and continuing to go out and learn and understand the game. That’s the value.”

Even describing the benefits of sticking around, Vick still can’t help but think and talk about starting again. He’s addicted to his own ability.

Domo then comes back and refutes the idea that Vick’s role as Kolb’s back-up is set in stone:

Reid never will admit this, but while he likes Vick as a Wildcat weapon, he doesn’t have a lot of faith in his ability to run his offense if something were to happen to Kevin Kolb this season. The Eagles still are hoping to move Vick, I’m told. But if they can’t, they really can’t afford to go with Kolb, Vick and a rookie project as their three quarterbacks.

Domo really seems to have some small tap on the Eagles organizational thinking and the general feeling at NovaCare — not to mention his theory jives with what we saw during the season. He’s not out there blasting the latest rumor from team sources, and the Eagles front office keeps putting out reports that put him down.

Like this one to Geoff Mosher:

  A team source verified that the Eagles plan to keep Vick for the 2010 season unless another team blows them away with an offer, which isn’t likely to happen.

At least Mosher presents his report with some skepticism, unlike McLane.

The truth is that Michael Vick doesn’t fit into any of the Eagles quarterback plans. Andy likes to have a veteran who is well-versed in his West Coast Offense behind his starter: Koy Detmer, Jeff Garcia, AJ Feeley. Vick can’t provide that security. Which is why we hear that the Eagles have had discussions with Garcia.

Vick also doesn’t address the need for a young, developmental quarterback for the Eagles future back-up. I’ll take a closer look soon at some of the possible quarterbacks the upcoming draft, but overall I think people who are linking the Eagles to Tebow are missing the point. Andy believes he has his “Donovan” for the next decade in Kolb, now he needs to find his new AJ Feeley — not another wildcat toy.

At the end of the day I still think the Eagles will trade Vick at some point this offseason. Andy may have improved his opinion of Vick enough to let him back-up Kolb, but there has been no evidence of that. A trade may not come soon, or even before the draft, since 2011 conditional picks might be in order. But if I were a betting man, I would wager that by September the Eagles quarterback corps goes: (1) Kolb, (2) Garcia, (3) middle-round prospect.

Is The New Eagles QB Actually Paul Bunyan?

Kevin Kolb Outdoorsman Hog Hunting

We now have our first backwoods Eagles Quarterback, complete with too-tall tales.

First and most absurdly, Kevin hunts wild hogs — not with a gun, but with his hands, a few dogs, and a 12-inch bowie knife:

“It’s not just [about] killing an animal,” says Kolb… He didn’t want to come off like some bloodthirsty savage to the non-hog-hunting fans of his new team, the Eagles, who shocked everyone from Allentown to Atco by taking Kolb with their first selection in the 2007 NFL draft, 36th overall. “A lot of times you’ve got to work before you reap your reward. Our dogs go and find ‘em first, and then we stab the pigs. It’s a little bit dangerous, but as long as you know what you’re doing, you’ll be all right.

Jesus. I can’t even imagine what it would be like to have a wild hog coming after you and trying to gut it. Of course, this could set up the greatest of all injury reports down the road…

Kolb also perpetuates his own bass fishing myths:

Placed seventh, along with friend Jeff Gilbert, at a Texas big bass fishing tournament in February. Kolb once caught - or so he claims (wink) - a 250-pound marlin.

And finally, his barn-stormin’ explanation of what it was like growing up in the country:

“When you’re out in the woods and you get beat up, your mom’s not there to pick you up. I’d flip my four-wheeler or something, want to lay down there and be hurt. There’s nobody there to cry for you. You got to jump up and keep going.

What a beast. Somehow I don’t think a few wide-bodied defensive tackles are going to rattle Mr. Bunyan much.

Reid Unloads On Media, Plus More Analysis

Andy Reid Angry Yelling at Media Reports Power

The reports of Andy Reid’s demise are greatly exaggerated.

We read the same things for weeks: there’s a schism in the Eagles front office, Joe Banner is gaining power over Andy Reid, Howie Roseman was a pawn in that game, Andy was the only one in the front office who didn’t want to trade McNabb.

I’ve debunked that claim a couple times here, but today Andy took to the airwaves to beat back the rumor himself.

On whether there was a split between major players on the McNabb decision:

There was absolutely no debate. And there was never a point where we weren’t on the same page here. This is what we all felt was right for the Philadelphia Eagles and what would work for Donovan… We work very well together. I’ve obviously got the ultimate respect for Joe and Howie… but, when you have three people who work well together… people are going to try to work the gray area on you and try to find out “who’s making the final decision,” and “this guy’s against that guy” and that’s not how this thing operates.

Andy was remarkably hostile about the idea if you listen to his tone. And I think rightly so. He is the “decider” in the front office, and has been for a number of years. If Reid wanted to keep McNabb, that would have happened. He clearly didn’t.

I do think it’s funny that in refuting the debate “schism” argument, Andy had to admit that everyone was on board with trading McNabb from the beginning — if I interpret his meaning correctly that there “was never a point” of debate. If the Eagles were truly so willing to go into next season with McNabb, then there would have been a change in the thinking at some point in the negotiations. I doubt it (as does Les), and Andy confirms. Trading Donovan was on the docket since the last snap in Dallas.

* * *

One of the most interesting parts of this whole deal is who you believe about why McNabb went to Washington. Here are the options:

  1. Redskins offered the best deal, even taking into account the intra-division nature of the trade. (Which, by the way, I think it’s ironic that the Eagles have doubled down on NFC East trades to set up Kevin Kolb — once with Dallas to acquire him, and now with Washington to give him the starting job.) Surprisingly, Reid has been careful to actually not claim that the Redskins offered the best package of picks. Of course, maybe he’s trying to set up the next option…
  2. The Redskins didn’t offer the best deal, but Andy wanted to do right by Donovan. Some of Andy’s statements have leaned in this direction. And to a certain extent I can see why the Eagles front office would at least want people to think this — for public relations purposes. No one likes the uncompassionate employer who sends his hard-working veterans to the Oakland abyss. But then again, even for Donovan McNabb, I have a hard time believing Andy is anything less than a cold realist for football decisions (which is, after all, why McNabb’s gone in the first place). Which leads me to option three…
  3. The Redskins didn’t offer the best deal, but McNabb forced Andy’s hand. Yikes. Jason Cole has been the one giving the most detail for this theory, saying that Donovan threatened to retire, or worse — return for his last season. Donovan’s agent, Fletcher Smith, basically confirmed it: “when we sat down and reviewed all the opportunities, we believed Washington provided the best one.” McNabb was able to review the opportunities? Wow. Sounds like he had way more influence in this process than we ever knew, and was able to basically hand-pick his destination.

    The Youth Movement: Andy's Third 5-Year Plan

    Donovan McNabb Philadelphia Eagles Youth Movement

    The McNabb decade is over in Philadelphia.

    I’m not talking about the player (yet). Donovan is still no longer an Eagle while I write this. But the other players who have formed the team’s backbone for much of his 11 years now are gone. This turnover, capped by a month-long purge of old veterans, signals the last dying whimpers of the old Eagles.

    Gone is Brian Westbrook. Gone is Sheldon Brown. Gone is Jeremiah Trotter (again). Gone is Donovan McNabb — face of the franchise for 11 years.

    David Akers and Quintin Mikell (who was just a second-year player) are the only two other guys remaining who played in the Super Bowl in February 2005. Everyone else is gone. Take a look at this chart, showing current roster’s experience with the Eagles:

    Philadelphia Eagles Experience Players Graph

    The green parts are the guys just let go or traded in the past month (I have excluded Shawn Andrews from this analysis since he’s just such a bizarre case).

    Look at that graph. There’s Akers, the kicker and outlier. Mikell now checks in as the oldest starter, with 7 years with the Eagles (and only 2 starting). Also with 7 years on the job (first two and a half split between the practice squad and IR), Jamaal Jackson ought to start questioning whether he’ll ever play in Midnight Green again after his ACL injury.

    For all intents and purposes this entire team was created post-super bowl. The “old” veterans still around? Players like Mike Patterson, Todd Herremans, Trent Cole, Juqua Parker — who’ve been here a whopping 5 years.

    The shift is just as profound when you look at the relative ages of the players let go versus the players acquired in the last month or so.

    Average age of the 12 now former Eagles: 30.35 years

    Average age of 5 newly acquired: 25.63 years

    Average experience in NFL of former Eagles: 7.5 years

    Average experience of new players: 3 years

    Philadelphia Eagles NFL Experience Years Graph

    The Eagles eliminated 12 older players this offseason, completing the transition to a “new” team for the new decade.

    Andy Reid is now on his third general 5-year plan. The first 5-year plan rebuilt the Eagles, keeping star players like Trotter, Tra Thomas, Brian Dawkins, Duce Staley, and adding new ones like McNabb, Brown, Lito Sheppard, Jon Runyan, T.O. This “team” culminated with the Super Bowl year of 2004.

    After the Eagles self-destructed in 2005, you saw Reid reboot — only keeping Westbrook, McNabb, Runyan, and a few others. The team of the second half of the 2000s was that holdover group, plus new players like Trent Cole, Reggie Brown, Kevin Curtis, Shawn Andrews.

    Now the refresh button has been hit again. Young players who have proven they are emerging stars during the last few years, like DeSean Jackson, Trent Cole, and Stewart Bradley, are being kept, while over the last two years the previous core has been dropped — even those that starred in both of the first two 5-year squads (McNabb, Westbrook, Dawkins, Thomas, etc.). Reid hopes players like LeSean McCoy, Jeremy Maclin, Kevin Kolb, Jason Peters, and the next crop of rookies can join with the young holdovers to form a new 5-year core.

    Still, even with last year’s prelude, this offseason’s been particularly brutal. Look at the drop in average age on the Eagles after just a few weeks of purging, compared to the rest of the league (updated to include McNabb):

    Average Age NFL Teams 5 April 2010

    Surprisingly, the Eagles were actually one of the oldest teams at the end of the 2009 season. If that seems strange, consider that the Eagles cut or traded 12 players — only 2 of them (Sheldon and Donovan) were still starters in the Dallas games.

    Think about that for a second. The Eagles went from the 7th-oldest team to the 6th-youngest seemingly overnight, and only lost two starters.

    This is what people don’t seem to understand when they yell and scream that this is “rebuilding.” I actually believe Howie Roseman when he says, “The word rebuilding will never enter our vocabulary.” At turning points between 5-year plans, the Eagles don’t break everything down and build up again, the way the Browns or Rams have to. For the most part, the Eagles are shedding dead weight — older players who no longer contribute much to the team.

    Not all the players fit into this, but the front office identified the core of the team as 5 years and younger. Once you do that, even those players who may still be starting-caliber become less valuable to the Eagles than to teams who are more committed to veterans.

    In other words, would the Eagles be better next year with McNabb and Westbrook and Sheldon still around? In an absolute sense, yes. McNabb is still a greater player than Kolb. Westbrook is better than any 2nd or 3rd back the team can bring in. Sheldon is better than the hybrid of Hobbs, Macho, Hanson, and Kyle Wilson.

    But the priority is not, and has never been (which is why I understand Roseman’s statement), to win immediately at the expense of the future. Especially now, with so many budding young players, the Eagles’ goal is to maximize the window of opportunity for Kolb, DeSean, Maclin, McCoy, Peters, Celek, Cole, Bradley, etc. And that means not crowding their growth with older players — it means getting as much new blood in as soon as possible (especially on the defensive side) to realize a Super Bowl contender every year over the next 5 years or so.

    That goal, now, will go on without Donovan McNabb.

    SHOCKER: McNabb Traded to Redskins

    Donovan McNabb Traded to Washington Redskins

    WOW.

    I was not expecting this. Not at all.

    Eagletarian breaks it down:

    The Eagles have confirmed the trade of Donovan McNabb to the Redskins for a second-round pick this year, No. 37 overall, and a conditional third- or fourth-round pick next year.

    * * *

    Jay Glazer is god. The man heard there was more than just mild interest from Skins for McNabb.” Apparently he was right…

    * * *

    Unlike Jay, I am most assuredly mortal:

    Andy Reid is quite simply going to ask a lot more from teams who the Eagles have to compete with. The game is all about relative gains, and trading McNabb a rival won’t help the Eagles’ chances. For example, McNabb’s not going to Washington. And while he could go to another NFC team, it would be much more expensive.

    Oops.

    * * *

    Early 2nd rounder and a 3rd or 4th in 2011? Initial reaction: that’s not that much. Though that’s probably a result of various sources hyping the Eagles’ ability to get a #1 pick.

    Also, I was willing to take the Rams #33 overall and OJ Atogwe. This is probably worth more.

    * * *

    John McClain, Houston Chronicle NFL reporter, says Texans Coach Gary Kubiak told him about Kolb:

    “Every time I see him, he reminds me of Favre.”

    He better be.

    * * *

    Anyone still want to read a detailed post on the new Eagles youth movement? Pretty graphs and all. Sigh.

    * * *

    Andy is not inspiring much confidence up at the press conference.

    He was the starting quarterback until he went elsewhere. I was honest with you.”

    Also, Andy says Donovan is the best quarteback the Eagles have ever had. But then in the next sentence, he compares the situation to Drew Bledsoe going to Buffalo. Burn.

    * * *

    This may have ended up being the best offer the Eagles got. But Andy and company really are not scared about Donovan going in the division.

    I tend to think they should be.

    * * *

    If the 3rd/4th round pick in 2011 is conditional on performance, you have to think that it will either be a low 4th rounder (because McNabb/Redskins didn’t do well) or a high 3rd (because they improved tremenodusly).

    That puts the value at an average of 114 on the draft value chart. Add 530 points for the 2nd rounder this year and the Eagles got approximately the 29th overall pick in compensation. Think that’s enough for McNabb?

    * * *

    So how high do the Eagles take a new quarterback in the draft? Maybe Tebow or Colt McCoy drop to that second 2nd round pick? I’m open to anything at this point.

    * * *

    As we race to conclusions, let’s also remember none of this can really be analyzed properly until we’re like 3 years down the road. With that said, back to my immediate two cents.

    * * *

    Mike Shanahan and McNabb. I’m not too happy about that.

    Think they might bring out some of the best in each other. Let’s hope that offensive line and runners-of-the-past thing they’ve got going on puts a damper on their aspirations.

    By the way, is there anyone who doesn’t think Daniel Snyder is reaching into his deep pockets right now for Donovan?

    * * *

    Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports says McNabb strong-armed a trade to Washington:

    McNabb, who is in the final year of his deal, made this happen by making it clear he wasn’t going anywhere else but Washington. When the Buffalo Bills expressed interest – and even were willing to give McNabb a contract extension – he passed on the offer. When the Oakland Raiders sniffed around and showed willingness to trade for the quarterback without an extension, McNabb indicated to the Eagles through his associates that he’d retire.
    “He has plenty of money,” the source close to McNabb said. “He’s not doing anything he doesn’t want to do.”

    Yikes. That’s a lot more involved than we were led to believe. And he threatened to retire rather than report? Wow. McNabb playing hardball.

    (Sal Pal confirms.)

    * * *

    Jason Campbell and Donovan have talked? That must have been an awkward conversation.

    * * *

    Adam Caplan reports the Eagles could have had Albert Haynesworth. Meh. That would have been a lot of money for an older player at a position the Eagles don’t need. Plus, it probably would have replaced any high pick.

    LaRon Landry (as Gregg Rosenthal reports) was apparently another interesting name thrown around.

    * * *

    More live updates as I pick my jaw off the ground…

    Joe Banner, Eagles FO Speaks Through Sal Pal

    Joe Banner Eagles Front Office Donovan McNabb Rumors

    Sal Paolantonio’s new piece, directly from a “senior team official,” aims to shoot down reports that Oakland is now the leading contender for Donovan McNabb:

    “There is no so-called front-runner,” the senior team official said. “We continue to engage in conversations with multiple teams that initially contacted us. Some of the offers involve draft picks, some involve a player, some involve many players. We are evaluating the offers. But if some team had totally blown us away, we would probably have made a deal already.”

    Translation from Eagles Front Office: “We’re still open to offers. Sure, Oakland may have offered us the most so far, but we’re not biting on that until we give everyone else a chance to exceed their proposal. However, if this report will scare the Raiders into upping their price, we might just go ahead and accept their deal.”

    Classic negotiation ploy — say publically that you’ve received a lot of offers, that none are perfect. Makes it seem like there’s a lot of competition, and that the teams involved need to increase their offers if they want to end up with McNabb.

    The Eagles front office has really made sure they stay on top of the rumors circulating. Whenever something comes out that doesn’t benefit their side, there’s always a competing report to follow shortly.

    As Andrew Brandt makes the case for here, don’t get too worried about whether or not a deal will get done. These things can come together fast, and with enough players interested, something will get done. At this point the Eagles are pretty much committed to dealing their veteran quarterback.

    Update: Donovan McNabb continues to make his case that he’d rather be pretty much anywhere, as long as his new team isn’t the Raiders:

    a source close to McNabb says he would “refuse the trade.”

    Yeah… pretty sure that’s moot at this point. Doesn’t seem like the Raiders are too concerned about McNabb not wanting to sign a long-term extension with them (unlike perhaps Buffalo), so I don’t see how Donovan thinks he can get out of playing for Oakland, if they make the best offer.

    Dissecting the Recent Rumors on McNabb

    Dissecting the Recent Trade Rumors on Donovan McNabb Philadelphia Eagles

    There’s been a lot of rumors flying around over the last week. Time to step back and look at them piece by piece. Let’s use Mike Florio’s McNabb magnum opus as a jumping off point, since it seems pretty obvious to me that his source is inside the Eagles organization:

    Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles are receiving offers from teams that have not been identified publicly at the request of the teams making the offers.  This is happening for two reasons:  (1) some of the teams have incumbent starting quarterbacks who would be confused, to say the least, if they learned that McNabb could be joining the club; and (2) none of the teams want fans or the media to know that they are courting McNabb, in the event that they fail to land him. This doesn’t explain the fact that the Bills, Rams, and Raiders have been named as potential trade partners.  According to the source, however, the Eagles have disclosed to no one the names of the teams with whom they are or aren’t talking.

    Put simply, in order for Florio to be so sure there are teams talking to the Eagles that no one has heard of, he has to have talked to someone with the Eagles. Think about it.

    First of all, no one could know that there are other teams in the mix who haven’t been mentioned unless they were working for one of those teams or for the Eagles. Since those teams clearly have no desire to make it public, and wouldn’t know there are multiple “teams” interested, it had to have been the Eagles.

    Second, only the Eagles have an incentive to get this information out there — true or not. If there are only negotiations with Oakland, Buffalo, etc. than this could give Philadelphia the upper hand. I’m not saying the new rumor isn’t true — there probably are a number of teams who have quietly inquired about the price tag on McNabb. But this is just as self-serving to the Eagles as McLane’s McNabb-to-Rams report.

    In any case, who could these teams with “incumbent starting quarterbacks” be? Basically you’re talking about teams that don’t have a mix of quarterbacks (looking at you Oakland), but rather have a nominal starter. This category of teams would probably include teams like Carolina, Jacksonville, San Francisco, maybe even Tennessee.

    We initially believed that Jeff McLane’s erroneous report that McNabb could be a Ram by the end of the week was the Eagles themselves, who were floating a phony rumor in the hopes of sending a “speak now or forever hold your piece/peace” vibe to other interested teams.  Based on our source, McLane apparently had a different source.

    “Based on our source…” — i.e. “From what the Eagles told me, they had nothing to do with McLane’s report.” And again, I think it’s funny that Florio would discredit the possibility McLane’s report was the Eagles putting out stuff to boost the offers on McNabb, when that’s exactly what his report here does as well!

    It’s possible that McLane’s source was McNabb himself, or agent Fletcher Smith.  (McLane’s subsequent report that McNabb prefers playing for the Vikings suggests he has a pipeline into the McNabb camp.)  This approach by McNabb would allow him to push the issue to a head without pulling a Jay Cutler and openly demanding a trade.

    Interesting idea. Thought not sure if it’s really in McNabb’s best interest to push a trade to the Rams that hasn’t actually been discussed — unless he’s really just fed up with the whole process and finally wants out of Philadelphia. But this type of analysis treads awfully close to Deadspin’s interpretation.

    The McLane report isn’t the only nugget that might not reflect reality.  ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio says that no one is willing to offer more than a third-round pick.  But as our source pointed out, “Has he talked to every team and have they told him their offer?”

    Or I don’t know, maybe he just talked to one team that’s interested in keeping the price low… Sal Pal is close to worthless these days.

    Finally, the Associated Press reported that the Eagles want the 42nd pick or higher in the 2010 draft.  (And, of course, the AP report was taken as gospel truth because the AP has never been wrong.)  Said the source, “Does anyone really believe the Eagles would pick such a random number and draw a line in the sand?”  We’re told that something higher than this reported threshold already has been offered.  The source believes that the “42 or higher” requirement was leaked by one or more other teams in order to frame the value — and possibly to create local pressure on the Eagles, many of whose fans generally are anxious, to say the least, to see McNabb get run out of town.

    First of all, yes, I can see the Eagles saying they want a first round pick or early 2nd rounder (probably plus something extra) for McNabb and not budging. And how exactly does this create local pressure? The fact that the Eagles are asking for a high pick doesn’t sound crazier than anything else — a better way to put the pressure on the Eagles would be to release Sal Pal’s report, or (better yet) say the team would be willing to take a 3rd rounder.

    Instead, this basically affirms the stance the Eagles took if they were the ones to leak the 33rd overall pick and FS O.J. Atogwe deal to McLane — they want first round value, and aren’t afraid to ask for it. By telling the AP this, the Eagles front office has essentially told the teams that are snooping around, offering late-second or third round picks to get serious or get left behind. And Florio affirms that the Eagles have in fact gotten an offer “higher than this reported threshold.”

    As we understand it, the Eagles have received a variety of offers, with draft picks only and players only and players and picks.  We’re told that the Eagles have never placed an asking price on McNabb.  Instead, they’re doing exactly what we reported in early March that they’d do — sitting back and waiting for the offers to come and evaluating them at the appropriate time.

    Ha. No asking price on McNabb. I don’t believe that for one second. Maybe early in the process, but by now the Eagles have to be seriously telling teams, either through the press or in direct talks, that they want at least one high pick.

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    By the way, a couple notes on Michael Lombardi’s post yesterday about McNabb and similar rumors:

    A team executive told me the Raiders and Vikings are discussing the availability of backup quarterback Sage Rosenfels. Trading Rosenfels would only happen if the Vikings know for certain that Brett Favre is coming back.

    The Sage Rosenfels chatter is the most obvious sign Oakland is in serious negotiations with Philadelphia about McNabb. They’re trying to show they can go other directions.

    Many executives I talked to last week wondered why the 49ers are not actively pursuing McNabb. With McNabb, the 49ers would be the favorites to win the NFC West. As I often write, the biggest problem in the NFL is evaluating your own team, and the 49ers really believe they’re set at QB.

    Agreed 100%. If San Francisco isn’t one of those teams who, according to Florio, are in quiet talks with the Eagles, they truly are incompetent.